Patreon: to be or not to be, that is the blog post.

Hello everyone, today the weather is beautiful and the cicadas are just a little less loud, which means I can hear them over my personal fan and having the windows closed.

So, as the name of the post indicates this will be a post about whether or not I launch a Patreon this year. I have been talking about launching one for a couple years now, but I have really been too busy to want to add additional work on top of my pretty full workload. Early this year I decided to cut way back on the number of tokens I take on every month. 6 months later I am in a pretty good place, with the exception of the Creature Codex tokens, 300 of them yet to be made.

So I am reaching out to you, if you are reading this chances are good that you might be interested in what I would offer to my Patrons. I’m going to post what I have so far. I am open to any and all feedback.

Thanks for the feedback so far… I have updated the tiers to be more clear, also removed some things to focus more on tokens. I removed the exclusitivity on tier 4. I may add a tier 5 but may not. I didn’t want to lock anyone out of a level that they were ok supporting at.

Tier 1: Token Teamster
$4 month 
No frills, just tokens!
Tier 1 patreons receive:

• Access to all previously released content at this tier.
(This does not include any tokens made outside of Patreon)
• 4 tokens per month (base number, number will increase by 1 for every 250 Patrons)
• Low & high resolution versions of every token released at this tier for this Patreon.
• Vote in Patreon only polls on token themes.
• 10% discount on all purchases from my website
• Access to Concept sketches on discord
• My deep gratitude.


Tier 2: Token Aficionado
$8 per month 
Bigger savings, More Variety!
Tier 2 Patreons will receive:

 
• Access to all previously released content at this tier and lower tiers.
(This does not include any tokens made outside of Patreon)
• 4 tokens per month +2 bonus tokens
(base number is 4, number will increase by 1 for every 250 Patrons)
• Low & high resolution versions of every token released at this tier for this Patreon.
• Vote in Patreon only polls on token themes.
• Access to Concept sketches on discord
• 20% discount on all purchases from my website.
• My Endless Appreciation.


Tier 3 Token Hoarder
$12 per month 
 Be a part of the magic!
Patrons at this tier will receive:

• Access to all previously released content at this tier and lower tiers.
(This does not include any tokens made outside of Patreon)
• 4 tokens per month +2 bonus tokens
(base number is 4, number will increase by 1 for every 250 Patrons)
• Low & high resolution versions of every token released at this tier for this Patreon.
• Vote in Patreon only polls on token themes.
• Access to Concept sketches on discord
• 30% discount on all purchases from my website.
• Additional artwork such as player handouts, portraits, or map objects
• Token Vault access  for some tokens, allowing customization of colors and optional extras
(weapons, hair styles, heads, etc) See https://the-token-vault.com/


Tier 4: Muse
$15 per month
 Those who whisper enigmatic dreams of wonder!
Patrons at this tier will receive:

• Access to all previously released content at this tier and lower tiers.
(This does not include any tokens made outside of Patreon)
• 4 tokens per month +2 bonus tokens
(base number is 4, number will increase by 1 for every 250 Patrons)
• Low & high resolution versions of every token released at this tier for this Patreon.
• Vote in Patreon only polls on token themes.
• Access to Concept sketches on discord
• 40% discount on all purchases from my website.
• Additional artwork such as player handouts or bonus map variants
• One patron per month gets to choose the 2 bonus tokens 
• Token Vault access  for some tokens, allowing customization of colors and optional extras
(weapons, hair styles, heads, etc) See https://the-token-vault.com/
• Custom requested variations on existing tokens (different weapons, hair styles, poses etc, Note there will be a turn around time on these requests and only 1-3 per member every 3 months depending on complexity. I.e a new pose will take longer than changing out hair or weapons for pre existing ones.) Maximum 4 per month
• Access to other tier 4 Patrons requested token variations


15 Replies to “Patreon: to be or not to be, that is the blog post.”

  1. camelotcrusade says:

    Looks good and I will support you!

    On the tiers, I like the idea of the discount, but wish there was a way to carry that through roll20. I don’t want the token sizes to count against my storage quota so I always buy them through the roll20 marketplace.

    1. devinnight says:

      Thanks, I will look into how that might be handled with Roll20.

  2. Boogily Woogily says:

    Hey Devin! If you’re thinking about a Patreon, I think you want to be very clear what people in each tier are getting. Some thoughts on this:
    – Access to all previously released content at this tier: It’s unclear what this means. Does this mean all tokens that have been previously released on your website? Or is it new Patreon-only token packs? Some mapmakers grant access to most/all of their backlog of maps, it wasn’t clear if this was something like that.
    – Weekly Token releases: Is it 4x unique tokens or 4x token packs? Are these Patreon-only?
    – Low & High resolution: When you say every token, does this mean EVERY token you’ve ever made or referring to a Patreon-only token line?
    – Vote: Same as above, is this voting on the “weekly tokens” or does this include all token packs you release in the future?
    – Tier 2: Does this include 4x MORE tokens in the Weekly Tokens for a total of 8x?
    – Tier 3 Token Vault: Not sure what this means or if what tokens this refers to.
    – Tier 4: If this is a very small group of people, consider making this a much higher price point, especially if you are making things especially for them. This could easily go up to $20-$25, maybe even $50 depending on the level of custom interaction. You could also break it up into a Tier 5 with only like 5 people but at the high price point, and then Tier 4 with like 15-20 people. It really depends on what the value is. Example: It might be worth it for some to go $50 Tier 5 if you can deliver to them 3x custom tokens a year.

    Anyway these are just suggestions/feedback and happy to answer any questions or bounce ideas. Best wishes in this endeavor!

  3. Steeljaw says:

    Does Tier 2 get 8x tokens per month or just 4? I ask because Tier 2 says “Access to all lower tier rewards.” which means you get the 4x tokens a month from Tier 1 and Tier 2 lists “Weekly Token releases (4x per month)” again. I would like clarification on what you mean by “Token Releases” 1x week. Does that mean 1x token a week or at least one and possibly more per week.

  4. Gabriel Victor Michel says:

    What is you patron link for christ sake!

    1. devinnight says:

      I have not launched it yet. I’m hoping once the kids are back in school I will have the time to get it set up.

      1. Gabriel Victor Michel says:

        It was only a joke, i read the post, but u got talent my friend enough to make a living in due time if is what you want. Here i am just cheaking every day to know if had any updates.

      2. devinnight says:

        No worries. I will probably post an update this weekend. The Patreon will probably launch in September, if I can get on top of things. 🙂

  5. Gabriel Victor Michel says:

    Really love your work man, shout out from Brazil, i will become your mose for sure, even 1 dolar been 5,5 of my current currency (Real R$). Keep up your amazing work forever so we can aways have immortalnights.

  6. Roy says:

    I’d love to see you start a Patreon and it would be fantastic if you’d consider using Moulinette cloud. Their modules have saved me so much time that it would be much appreciated added bonus.

    1. devinnight says:

      I still need to get some things in order, and I just got slapped with some extra token work.
      I am hoping to launch the patreon September. Moulinette cloud looks good and I will probably join that service.

  7. DivertedCircle says:

    Definitely love the idea of a Patreon. I myself would likely sub at Tier 2, though the Token Vault aspect of Tier 3 is appealing. The additional artwork portion of Tier 3 isn’t up my alley, so I kinda wish their was a Tier 2.5, but I’d probably consider Tier 3 anyway.

    1. devinnight says:

      Thanks for the comment. I am considering just making a single tier.

  8. Joe says:

    So if I am reading this right, you are doing 4 tokens per moth for patreons plus some bonus stuff based on tier. Then are you still doing your normal token packs which you sell on your site and roll20 which we can get discounts on? Is that right?

    1. devinnight says:

      I changed things up since the post. You can see the patreon for exact details, but it will work like this. I’ll make at least 10 tokens per month for the patreon. When those tokens end up becoming a set, the entire set (usually 20 tokens) will be available to Patreons at $5 level and higher for free. It might happen that 2 months of tokens become one set, but it would still be free for patrons. Tokens made outside of Patreon will still be making their way to the marketplaces and Muse level supporters and higher will get a 30% discount on all sets.

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